Eugene Kaspersky : "Je n'imaginais pas que le cybermonde deviendrait un champ de bataille"

Teenagers, hooligans... Well, we didn't see, we don't have any proof that there were real hackers. The state-sponsored hackers. That time, I think it's now. So they did, they were not in the cyber. They hit me. Yeah. So... It's still, it's still very interesting because, well, actually they're working in the technologist and cyber, and same time you're fighting with the bad guys, with the cyber criminals. You're protecting the networks from also the targeted attacks. And there, unfortunately, the bad news is that there are more and more highly professional criminal attacks.

So the criminals, not state-sponsored groups, the criminals, they are able to develop their cyber tools, which is able to hack the banks. They can hack anything they want. So the first story, which is very well known, is Karbonak. Well, they were mostly Russian-speaking, so they're mostly from Russia, from Ukraine, from European countries. So it's like an international group. But all of them, they are native Russian-speakers. They were hacking the banks, and they were managing the networks inside of the banks. So they were creating the fake accounts. They were transferring money. They were printing the fake credit card numbers with real money stolen from the banks.

They were releasing cash from ATMs. So that's why we found them. The bank called us and said, OK, guys, sorry, ATMs are infected. And we found that ATMs are not infected. Someone is managing the ATMs. So that was a really, really sophisticated, very highly complicated criminal attack. Now we are fighting not just with these junior criminals, but also with state-sponsored attacks, which are very high sophistication and highly sophisticated criminal attacks. So this is making our job much more interesting than before.